tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12623101.post114142720906381853..comments2023-06-25T09:40:13.649-05:00Comments on Russell Glasser's blog: The knowledgeable world viewAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12623101.post-58560641502984361912009-07-24T08:58:04.367-05:002009-07-24T08:58:04.367-05:00I love how athiests say that since there is no God...I love how athiests say that since there is no God, then our worldviews are based on how we interpret information. according to an atheistic worldview, every sinlge person is able to decide what the meaning of their own life is, but it just seems to bother atheists so much that millions of people decide to believe in the Christian God, and billions of people believe in God in another form, and it's up the the atheists of the world to let us know how delusional we all are......it's hilarious i mean isn't that the same thing that Christians get crap for when they tell sinners that they are lost? the only problem with logical positivism (the belief that only things which can be empirically verified are true) is that it doesn't meet it's own requirment. No propostition like this can be scientifically proven... but atheists and naturalists will continually try to make it seem like it is so.....according to your own worldview any of our thoughts and interpretations are random processes of our minds, which should completely disqualify them from being able to explain how they work, ontology precedes empiricism, there had to be reason before there was matter, there had to be some way of explaining something before there was something to explain, nothing can explain it's own existence without running the risk of absurdity, and according to an atheistic worldview I'm right, because there are no absolutes so the individual decides what is right and wrong and i decide that I'm right and atheists are wrong, and playing by the atheists rules, this makes me correct.....you see how this can continue to go, someone who graduated with a degree in computer engineering should understand that you can't just randomly insert information into a syatem and get a working program!! you have to design the program to do what you want it to do, someone who is as educated as that should be able to clearly see that working, functional programs dont just pop into existence because of an influx of information, People don't believe in God for one reason, and that reason is not because there is a lack of evidence (though that is the common excuse) and even if you feel there is not enough evidence, what makes you so special that you deserve more evidence that someone who believes with the existing evidence (oh that's right because they are delusional and you're not) but the real reason people don't believe in God....is because it makes them accountable, it holds them responsible for their own actions and thoughts and behaviors, this scares us...taking responsibility for something we've done, it's a lot easier to point out things that others have done or bring up things that others (God) haven't done for us.....<br /><br />www.jknizzle.blogspot.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12623101.post-1147905497893855412006-05-17T17:38:00.000-05:002006-05-17T17:38:00.000-05:00As you have said in the past it was a purple drago...<I>As you have said in the past it was a purple dragon, an invisable purple dragon that lives in your garage. And as I said there are things we "know" such as infinity which we have no way of understanding. So "God" could be any of these things.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes indeed. God COULD be the turkey sandwich I ate for lunch. But what is a god, what are its properties, and what reason have I to think that you're right? Unless you specify what YOU mean by "God", then I have no reason to take any interest in it.<BR/><BR/><I>However, being more serious about it, if what you posit is correct and that thing existed before time started then we have an connumdrum<BR/>since time started with matter and your thing would have triggured time and dimension. Then what would have been there before that? Since it had to come from somewhere unless it always existed and that cannot be. </I><BR/><BR/>I didn't posit anything, youngfod. All I did was count the possibilities. Either there exists something without a cause, or there doesn't. That's all I said. In neither case do I see a compelling indication of a divine intelligence. How about you?<BR/><BR/><I>Things aren't as simple as you might like to portray, atheism is a belief system and that is all. It is not cleverer than any other belief system and like all belief systems it has gaping holes.</I><BR/><BR/>The difference between your approach and mine is, when I don't know something then I just agree that I don't know it. Your response is "I can't stand gaping holes, so I will make up a giant purple dragon and stick it in there. There, now I know everything."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12623101.post-1147798070004123132006-05-16T11:47:00.000-05:002006-05-16T11:47:00.000-05:00Youngfod,I'm quite taken with "Ultimate Spider-Man...Youngfod,<BR/><BR/>I'm quite taken with "Ultimate Spider-Man" these days. It is a fun game that allows an enormous amount of freedom, and gives very clear indications about where the objectives are. I recommend it and will most likely review it in the near future.<BR/><BR/><I>Science (e.g, the discovery of what is) cannot prove that God exists, but it may prove that all else is impossible.</I><BR/><BR/>Actually, no it cannot. To "prove that all else is impossible" would require the sort of omniscience that theists always rightfully point out we haven't got.<BR/><BR/><I>Consider, scientists have proved that the universe had a beginning and that before it began nothing else existed, not matter, not dimension, not time. That is a fundamentally important discovery and has come in my lifetime.</I><BR/><BR/>Apparently you haven't understood what has been proven at all. Cosmologists have made enormous strides in understanding the early, post-big bang universe, back to the first 10^-43 seconds. But before that point, they haven't "proved that nothing existed". Only that the universe, matter, and time as we know them were fundamentally different.<BR/><BR/>Is there enough wiggle room to pretend that a god may be hiding in there? Sure. Anything is "possible." But have they found evidence that any such thing, with all the associated properties (i.e., omnipotence, absolute moral authority, etc) actually WAS there? No. You are always assuming, via faith, that "God" is a likely default hypothesis, and I don't see any compelling reason to think that you're right.<BR/><BR/><I>Scientists tell us that before something can happen there must be a cause, we all know the cause and effect thing pretty well by now and it is the basis of scientific discovery. If you do something, the result will always be the same. We do not have a belief that if you wait long enough something will happen randomly.</I><BR/><BR/>Here we go again. And what caused God?<BR/><BR/><I>So we have a problem, where did the universe come from? You tell me!</I><BR/><BR/>Well, there are two possibilities:<BR/><BR/>1. "Something" exists which doesn't require a cause. <B>If</B> that is the case, then I see no reason to identify that "something" as "God", rather than some random inanimate particle existing before the 10^-43rd second of the big bang.<BR/><BR/>2. Everything really does require a cause, in which case some other stuff happened before the big bang, involving, for example, other universes.<BR/><BR/>You clearly assume that (1) is the case. Let's pretend you're right. Why on earth would I think that the uncaused cause is intelligent, or in any other way resembles Yahweh?<BR/><BR/>Getting back to the theme of the original post, there's an enormous difference between completely dismissing the things we DO know, pretending that contrary evidence doesn't actually exist when it does; and honestly accepting that we don't know the things we actually don't know.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12623101.post-1142257663149895892006-03-13T07:47:00.000-06:002006-03-13T07:47:00.000-06:00Well and cogently put. You write as well as Sam Ha...Well and cogently put. You write as well as Sam Harris, but without even the appearance of a chip on your shoulder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com